This is an update review, as I've worn these about a dozen timesI've already lost a button, AND 2 zippers have broken which is unacceptable in an expensive pair of shorts. I emailed the company and received a very quick and courteous response. The only complaint I have with these, is the waist band is thin, so they bunch up and are very uncomfortable when you sit. I give them a 4 for the broken zipper and a few buttons have fallen off , but if not for these small items they would be a 5. Pockets are super deep at a time when most brands are not. Cargo pockets hold a large phone. And most important, cargo pockets close securely. Belt loops accommodate a nice sized work belt. Why other manufacturers can do this is beyond me, but apparently it takes $65. 00 to make it happen. I'll order more soon even with the shortcomings as there is nothing else I find to meet my needs.